New waterskin- finally!

Hard Kit is all other accoutrements that are not clothing, weapons or armour. This includes pots and tents, and flint & steel, and other things like that.

Moderators: caedmon, Greg

User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:33 am

If memory serves, a 1.5L version was a standard option, but I don't see it on the seller's ebay page now.

What I'd do now were I to do it over is arrange to send a nozzle and hanging cord to the factory, and have them do the rest.
I looked into doing it myself, but couldn't find -

A. traditionally tanned, hair-on, goatskins.
B. a recipe for the pitch lining. (I think it's some mix of pine pitch (or maybe unprocessed sap?) and beeswax from references I've seen, but I don't have the expertise to recommend proportions or preparation - I can tell you what's in mine is thick, sticky/gooey, pine smelling, and opaque yellow in color. Come to think of it - I might have seen little bits of clear resiny-looking sap stuck here or there when I opened it up. It is NOT black, like in the below video.

When you first receive the bag, the sides are stuck together, and you're instructed to leave it in the sun for a bit to get soft, then gently blow it up like a balloon to fill it.

Anyhow, here's the promo video from (perhaps a different?) manufacturer giving the high points of the process:

Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.
User avatar
Greg
Urush bithî 'nKi ya-nam bawâb
Posts: 3728
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:50 pm
Location: Up the Greenway; Southern Indiana

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Greg » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:24 am

Now the sword shall come from under the cloak.
User avatar
Ursus
Amrod Rhandir
Posts: 411
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:31 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Ursus » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:53 pm

I think for research sake I'm going to look into making my own at some point in 2017. In the interim I'm going to rehab my current one to suit my needs more efficiently.
"Lonely men are we, Rangers of the wild, hunters – but hunters ever of the servants of the Enemy."

“My cuts, short or long, don’t go wrong.”
User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:15 pm

Ursus - awesome! I'm looking forward to hearing your results!

Greg - thank you! I'd looked into that option late last year. Sadly that product is fit only for hardsided canteens and bottles. As their rep told me -
... we are sorry to disappoint you; however, our pitch becomes more stiff and brittle as the temperature of the lining/pitch decreases. We know of no sources for "flexible pitch."


On with the search, I suppose. :)
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.
User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:50 pm

In preparation for a trip later this year, I'm looking at having another of these made in a 1.5L size, with a custom turned neck of maple similar to the one shown above.

Before I place the order, is anyone interested in adding one to my order? I *expect* the pricing will work out to around $100, but I've no information yet.
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.
User avatar
Greg
Urush bithî 'nKi ya-nam bawâb
Posts: 3728
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:50 pm
Location: Up the Greenway; Southern Indiana

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Greg » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:37 pm

I'm in. I spoke with them awhile back, but funds didn't present themselves. If we can simplify things by ordering together, I'm all for it.
Now the sword shall come from under the cloak.
User avatar
Udwin
Amrod Rhandir
Posts: 563
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:00 pm
Location: banks of the great River, Kaintuckiana

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Udwin » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:17 am

Speaking of which, I had a lead on possibly the kind of true pitch used for botas--sticky, black, flexible. Only thing is, it comes by the 5 gallons, which runs $350. That's a lifetime supply (unless someone wanted to start making botas and jackware as a trade), but perhaps we as a forum might pool our resources and then divvy among ourselves.
Personae: Aistan son of Ansteig, common Beorning of Wilderland; Tungo Boffin, Eastfarthing Bounder, 3018 TA
User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:30 am

Hunh.

I can't say I have the time or inclination to go into business of crafting waterskins, but I can certainly step in to buy my share of pitch and contribute the occasional sheepskin (not goats, sadly) to the cause if anyone wants to take up that mantle.
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.
User avatar
Greg
Urush bithî 'nKi ya-nam bawâb
Posts: 3728
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:50 pm
Location: Up the Greenway; Southern Indiana

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Greg » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:17 am

Yeah, I'm not terribly inclined to look beyond a first (and hopefully last) purchased skin for a good long time. As I said before, I'm in...but not for a 5 gallon bucket. I wouldn't know where to begin.
Now the sword shall come from under the cloak.
User avatar
Kortoso
Haeropada
Posts: 799
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:37 pm
Location: San José, California
Contact:

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Kortoso » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:06 am

Elleth wrote:Ursus - awesome! I'm looking forward to hearing your results!

Greg - thank you! I'd looked into that option late last year. Sadly that product is fit only for hardsided canteens and bottles. As their rep told me -
... we are sorry to disappoint you; however, our pitch becomes more stiff and brittle as the temperature of the lining/pitch decreases. We know of no sources for "flexible pitch."


On with the search, I suppose. :)


A little bird did whisper in mine ear, suggesting that beeswax mixed 1/2-1/2 with that brewer's pitch would do the trick.
It has yet, alas, to be thoroughly tested in a laboratory setting....
Middle Earth Rangers of the Bay Area
Dúnedain Rangers on Youtube
There are no safe paths in this part of the world. Remember you are over the Edge of the Wild now, and in for all sorts of fun wherever you go.
User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:21 pm

Thank you Kortoso! I'll try that on my existing skin when I get a chance! :)
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.
User avatar
Ursus
Amrod Rhandir
Posts: 411
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:31 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Ursus » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:03 pm

Any idea if they come in 2 liter?
"Lonely men are we, Rangers of the wild, hunters – but hunters ever of the servants of the Enemy."

“My cuts, short or long, don’t go wrong.”
User avatar
Elleth
êphal ki-*raznahê
Posts: 1761
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am
Location: in the Angle; New England

Re: New waterskin- finally!

Postby Elleth » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:24 am

They do!

The price will be a bit more, but they do make 2L, and they take the same mouthpiece, so we're set there.

The guy I contacted about turning the mouthpiece didn't get it quite right, so I'll see what can be arranged. I might need to find another source.

Nothing ever goes easy. :)
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.

Return to “Hard Kit”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest