Thoughts on cleaning up a maille avontail or camail



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Thoughts on cleaning up a maille avontail or camail

Postby Ringulf » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:59 pm

I most likely butchered the spellings on the Subject line, but I have a nice Germondbu Helm, that has a maille avontail and it may have gotten put up on it's stand after a big, sweaty, Dwarven head was living in it for a while.
I have heard of the old "sand in a bag" trick, though my sand down here is like fine powder which makes it very easy to drive on, but not real abrasive (at least that is what I am figuring)
I am a bit reluctant to slather on a coat of Navel Jelly (though I have it available) any other methods or ideas anyone might like to share? Truthfully I don't use a lot of mail though I am looking for a Hauberk .
It is butted, mild steel and I have been using it for my Viking Library demos ( Also why I am looking for a Hauberk)
After it is put to rights I will give it a good coating of oil to keep it from happening again (kinda ticked that it got away from me but live and learn I suppose.) if someone besides myself can benefit from my mistakes and the solution given, it is never a waste!
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Re: Thoughts on cleaning up a maille avontail or camail

Postby Peter Remling » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:05 pm

I tried the old sand in the bag route a while back for my hauberk and it was slow and not a great result. I bought play sand which like your sand pretty fine. Then I put it and the maille in a large heavy bank money sack. I tied one end with some slack over a tree limb and the other end tied with the rope just tossed over the same limb several feet away from the first. I could pull up and down on the rope which caused the sack to invert itself allowing the not too abrasive sand to run across the maille.

Did it work ? Yes and no, it removed the rust but not the staining.

If I was doing a helmet, I'd it a little differently. First I'd use a different medium. Crushed walnut shells or corn husk. Both are used for rock polishing and are easily obtained and relatively inexpensive. Next put the helmet and grit in a heavy sack or a plastic bucket like a resealable Lowes or Home Depot bucket.
You can then roll the bucket around the yard and check it periodically.

Now because I always think there has to be an easier way this is something I'd give a try : after putting the helm and grit in the bucket or sack,I'd tape bed pillows around the bucket and stick it in the dryer. Turn it on and wait a few minutes to see if works without too much stress for the dryer.

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Re: Thoughts on cleaning up a maille avontail or camail

Postby Iodo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 pm

Unfortunately the only reliable way I've ever found for getting rust off chain-mail is not to let it get rusty in the first place :mrgreen:

sorry I can't be more help, but I'd be interested to know if you find something that works effectively
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Re: Thoughts on cleaning up a maille avontail or camail

Postby Ringulf » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:47 pm

Thanks folks!
Fortunately the avontail is easily separated from the Helmet so I am going to try several methods to clean this one up and replace this one with one that is not rusted off another helm, (making a few adjustments to duplicate the pattern). I will keep working on the original and see what happens. I will post my findings if there is any new info! :mrgreen:
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