Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby Iodo » Fri May 08, 2020 7:13 am

Taurinor wrote:My goodness, you've been busy! That all looks lovely!

Thank you :P

Taurinor wrote:I played with the swag some (used it on my first overnight outing), and it's a solid system. I actually ended up wearing the bedroll horizontally across my shoulder blades to shift the weight a little bit higher, which was a little more comfortable for me (but the comfort of weight distribution is a very personal thing).

I was attracted to it for the same reason that it seems you were, that it plays nicely with a cloak! But then I found that I wasn't really wearing my cloak (really just a half-blanket) on the trail and that I liked the stability of a pack frame and now I'm looking into pack baskets... you know how it goes! :mrgreen: I didn't stop using it because of some sort of major flaw, though - just gear and preference changes.

cool, I totally missed that thread, thanks for the link, your right that kit evolves over time, sometimes incredibly quickly, I don't know if I'll stick with it for ever but given that I'll get maybe one chance to use it every year if I'm lucky it will probably do just fine, I'm getting a different (hopefully better) blanket and a shelter and ground cloth will add weight to the bedroll so I'll be interested to see how well it works loaded with more weight
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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby BrianGrubbs » Thu May 14, 2020 3:53 pm

That is amazingly well done! So cool to see what you've done with the strap system, it's very well laid out, and matches the aesthetic of the rest of your kit. I like what you did with tapering the dilly bag to combat the bunching up of the thicker material. Likewise the reshaping of the base of the bag. It looks incredible, and comfortable. As a side note, I did not invent the slit in the bag, but for the life of me I can't find the source where I learned about it.

Good idea with adding the snapsack! That's on my list of things to add to my kit collection :lol:

Can't wait to see and hear more about this as you continue to use and develop it!

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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby Iodo » Thu May 14, 2020 4:54 pm

BrianGrubbs wrote:That is amazingly well done! So cool to see what you've done with the strap system, it's very well laid out, and matches the aesthetic of the rest of your kit. I like what you did with tapering the dilly bag to combat the bunching up of the thicker material. Likewise the reshaping of the base of the bag. It looks incredible, and comfortable. As a side note, I did not invent the slit in the bag, but for the life of me I can't find the source where I learned about it.
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Glad you like it :P I tried to find a reference for the slit in the bag and had no luck, that's why I wondered if you had invented it, I guess it will remain a mystery :lol:

BrianGrubbs wrote:Can't wait to see and hear more about this as you continue to use and develop it!

I've already added a loop to the base of the dilly bag, attaching it to my belt seems to work well to stop it from swinging, I haven't taken photo's of it yet but I will at some point
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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby BrianGrubbs » Thu May 14, 2020 5:44 pm

Found it! I was looking in a book by Richard Graves, but it seems I was looking in the wrong place. This is from Bushcraft: The Ultimate Guide to Survival in the Wilderness:

"The two binding cords pass through the loops of the swag strap and are tied tightly about 6″ to 8″ [15 to 20 cm] from either end of the roll. The food, cooking utensils, and daily needs are put in the dilly bag, and the neck of this is tied right at the junction of the binding strap with the swag strap, or alternatively a series of cuts in the neck of the bag can be made and the binding cord passed through these so that the bag is tight to the roll. If this is done it is a good idea to make a cut down the side of the bag for about 12″ [30 cm] so that the contents can be taken out without removing the bag itself from the binding straps.

Definitely going to be putting a loop at the bottom of mine. Interested to see how you attached it to your belt, I will await the next series of photographs with some degree of anticipation (ok, a large degree :lol: )

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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby BrianGrubbs » Thu May 14, 2020 5:47 pm

A good summary of this section of his book can be found here:

https://swagmanfever.wordpress.com/2014 ... scription/

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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby Iodo » Fri May 15, 2020 7:11 am

Interesting :P thanks for finding it
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Re: Many ways to carry stuff - Experimentation

Postby Iodo » Fri May 22, 2020 9:51 am

BrianGrubbs wrote:Definitely going to be putting a loop at the bottom of mine. Interested to see how you attached it to your belt, I will await the next series of photographs with some degree of anticipation (ok, a large degree :lol: )

Brian

finally got around to it :lol:

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all I have done is attach a leather loop to the base of the dilly bag to use to tie onto a belt, it works best if it's exactly the right length required to reach my belt. Anchoring it does mean it can be made longer (without swinging around) and therefore filled higher so I've put some leather toggle fastenings of the slit to prevent things from falling out, I guess the disadvantage it that it's slower to take off and no longer works with a cloak

I think I still prefer it shorter but this is only because my tapered design means the longer it is the narrower the cloth over my shoulder becomes, making it feel more uncomfortable
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